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Grimlord31 wrote: CaliforniaFoxtrotThirteen wrote: As I pointed out on the talk page for the episode 'Counseling', it was Tucker's sword through the Meta's chest that sealed his fate. The theory I put forward is explained in better detail there, but tl;dr water and blood got into Meta's lungs via the puncture wounds. Cold shock from the water would have also aided in his drowning, plus the weight of his armour and HIMSELF (counnter-balancing the Sarcophagus, anyone?) and the Warthog. Even if he did manage to free himself from the latter, he would have been fighting a losing battle. Trust me, swimming in cold water is a LOT of effort, not just swimming wise but maintaining steady breathing from the shock.

Meta. Is. Dead. Let drowning madmen lie on the bottom of the ocean. We actually don't really know if the Meta's dead body was left at the bottom of the ocean, because how could the Counselor know how he died if his body was still in the ocean. Beisdes how do we know it was Tucker's sword, did they ever confirm?

First of all. Last line was a figure of speech.

Second of all, the Counselor all but says it. "Four puncture wounds in [Meta's] suit."

Tucker stabbed him with his sword through the chest. Hence puncture wounds. You could argue Sarge's shots, but gunshot wounds are never referred to as puncture wounds unless in the context of "the shot went through here, puncturing through his lungs" or something, and in any case the shots Sarge lands were all stopped by the Meta's overshield (the forth one depleting it) and the last shot was dodged and the Meta knocked Sarge's weapon astray.

Seriously, are people still even debating this?